Wishlisting Blog

Last week John and I gave the first ever public demo of Wishlisting at the Seattle Tech Startups group (sorry for not blogging about it in advance!). It went very well and we met a lot of great people. We’ve been attending those meetings since the very beginning, and I was happy that our first public demo of the site took place there. For those of you who have never been, I’d definitely recommend signing up for their mailing list and checking out the meetings (although they end up packed - show up early!). Gaurav and Chuck do a great job with them.

Last night we met another group of people (and saw some familiar faces) at the nPost.com networking event at Del Rey in downtown Seattle. That’s another get-together I’d recommend if you’re interested in meeting people on the startup scene. The first time I went to one, a friend of mine got a job with one of the companies she met there. Nathan has even opened up a job board on the site which is worth checking out.

We’ve gotten a lot of great feedback, and appreciate all of it.

UPDATE: The video of our presentation was posted at Google Video here if you want to check it out. It’s difficult to see exactly what’s happening on the screen, but the audio is clear and you should be able to follow along.

On Tuesday we switched servers back to the grid, and released a substantial update to wishlisting.

Here’s a rundown of the new features you’ll find:

• Updated look - The images were re-formatted to pop off the page, and the layout of the site now makes better use of the browser’s screen real estate. The comments and discussions were totally updated with a sexier look. There are a lot of little graphical updates all over the site.
• Far better information on an item - This was the biggest overhaul. When you click on the details of an item, you can see who else wants/has it right on the home screen. Also, if there are changes in price, that too is visible right on there. We do automatic price-checking for quite a few stores. As we see people adding wishes at various sites, we add price checking support for them as well.
• Tools page - Instructions for installing our browser tools, fully illustrated.
• Browse all popular items - You might not have noticed, but the filter buttons at the top are now active on the home page. If you start playing with them, you can explore the most popular things on the site. For example, if you go to the home page and choose the “stuff people want” filter, you’ll get back all of the most popular stuff on the site that people want.
• Email notifications - By default, you’re notified when a friend leaves a comment on one of your items now. There are a bunch of new settings to allow you to control what you get e-mailed about, and how often. You can even set it up to only notify you weekly with a summary of all of your comments, for example.
• “Stuff I have” no longer hidden - One of the things that often confused people is that when they marked something as “I have it” it seemed to disappear. This is because, by default, your wishlist was only showing stuff you want. The new default is to show it all, in two different groups. So, you can see what happens more clearly when you move stuff from “I want it” to “I have it”.
• Customize the default view of your wishlist - Anytime you change the filters on your wishlist, you can “freeze” that view as the view you want when you come look at your wishlist by default. So, if you don’t like seeing both your “want it” and “have it” items all the time, you can just filter on “want it” and you’ll see an option in the left-hand side to set that as your default view. That view will only apply to you when looking at your own wishlist. It will not affect what other people see.
• You can control when someone finds out about a gift purchase - When you reserve an item for someone, now you can tell the site when that person is allowed to see that information. You can choose to never tell them, tell them on their birthday, or pick any date of your choosing. When that date rolls around, they’ll get an e-mail (if they want one) and they’ll be able to see, on their wishlist, that the item has been reserved.
• Items reserved for you are separated out - When you look at someone’s wishlist, there is a separate group of items that the person “wants” but have been reserved for him/her. So, it’s immediately obvious what’s left to buy, and what isn’t. When the person looks at his/her own list, they may see a smaller set of items here, however. We don’t ruin surprises for people. The buyer controls when the recipient finds out about a purchase.
• New gifts given/received tables on your profile - You can track what gifts you’ve given and what you’ve received right on your profile page. No one can see this but you. When someone reserves something for you, we have added a new field for “where did you buy it?” which will also show up in this table. That way, if you need to return something, you can see where the person bought it without having to ask them.
• Help section - If you get stuck, you can come here for help. We’ll be updating it with more pictures eventually, and we’ll update the contents depending upon where people need the most help.
• See consolidated reviews - There is no need to go to each person’s wish to find out what they think of an item, there is a new “reviews” link where you can see all reviews of an item.

Almost all of these changes were motivated by feedback from our beta users - so thank you! There is a lot more to come. Please play around and send feedback with any comments/ideas/insults/thoughts you might have.

We just released the Firefox Extension and Internet Explorer Add-On for Wishlisting!

What each of these does is provide a simple installation of the browser button, without having to drag a bookmarklet to your toolbar or any of that. When you’re done, you’ll end up with a shiny new button in your toolbar which you can use to add stuff to your wishlist from anywhere.

In Firefox, you can decide if you want the button:

• In the toolbar at the top (default)
• In the statusbar at the bottom
• In the tools menu of the browser

In Internet Explorer the button will show up in the toolbar at the top, as well as in the “tools” menu.

On both platforms, the buttons are fully uninstallable. The Firefox extension uses the built-in firefox uninstall mechanism, and the Internet Explorer add-on can be removed via the “Add/Remove Programs” control panel in Windows.

One of the biggest pain points for people has been getting the browser button installed, and we’re hoping this will resolve a good chunk of those difficulties.

Getting the next big push of features out has taken longer than expected, but we’re on the home stretch now. Look for a post from me next week!

I haven’t posted in a while, but we’ve been busy working on some new features which I think people are really going to enjoy. In the last month, we’ve quietly fixed and updated a lot of smaller things. For example…

• At long last, with a lot of help from Kate and Shuttle, the browser button in Internet Explorer doesn’t produce cookie errors that prevented it from working. There are still bugs that need to be fixed with it, but the cookie thing was really bad.
• The friends page was reworked so you could fit more friends into one page, and you can see their birthdays and their last login time. For a good time, try searching within that section. You’ll find your results grouped by friend. Interested in buying a camera? See what cameras your friends have, and what they think of them. Oh, your friends should now be in alphabetical order by username, instead of random order.
• The search feature was updated to return more accurate results. User exsoccer91 stumbled onto a flaw in the algorithm which has since been addressed.
• The “create a new item” page was simplified, and shortened.
• The upload control used to upload your avatar and custom images has been totally reworked, and there is no longer an “upload” button. Just pick a file and the upload happens automatically. You also now have the ability to delete any image you’ve uploaded.
• If you’re in a position where you’ve tried and failed to associate with your Amazon wishlist via an e-mail address, you’ve now got another way to do it. Go to your settings page to see it. People who associated with Amazon fine won’t see any change.
• Marysharon reported that she would sometimes see a “this wish may not exist yet” message after rating an item. That problem has been fixed.
• Pulling up an individual wish was really slow for a while, which had to do with how we were fetching an item’s alternate images. That has been addressed, so pulling up items should be reasonably speedy now.
• The ability to edit your profile was pushed out to a top-level item under your image on the left, rather than being a link that’s buried in your profile.
• Juice and Kstar found some sweet typos which were fixed. Wait, you mean “account” has two c’s?

There are a lot of other little fixes, plus more to come before we release a second sweep of features. I’ll keep you posted!

There are a few questions we’ve heard a number of times. Here are a few of them, answered for all to see:

• Q: Who designed all the graphics - they’re pretty!
  A: Wishlisting co-founder, John.
• Q: How does the search work? What is it searching?
  A: The search on the front page will search all of the wishes on the site, and augment those results with results from Amazon.com. Eventually, when we have lots of wishes, we’d love to simply search them all without going to Amazon. For the time being, we want to do our best to find exactly what you’re looking for, even if no one has wished for it. The search takes longer than we’d like, with the hope that we’ll be presenting you with more relevant information. (Even still, the Amazon.com search engine has some relevance issues which I’ll save for another post.)
• Q: Okay, I signed up… now what, exactly?
  A: A lot of the work we’ll be doing in the next few months is to help make it clearer what the site can be used for and how to get up and running with it. At the most basic level, what you’re doing is building a wishlist. You can put things on to your wishlist in one of 3 ways:
  1. Search for it on our site, and add it.
  2. Use the browser button (Firefox/IE extensions coming soon) to add anything from any other store to your list.
  3. Create a totally new custom item called whatever you want with whatever picture you want.
• Q: How do you guys make money?
  A: We don’t! Ok, (half) joking. The site is free to use and will always be free. We make money two ways:
  1. When people buy things from affiliated stores. Currently, that means when they buy things at Amazon.com by following links on our site, and over time more stores will be hooked up. Our plan is to affiliate with the stores you like best, versus other sites which affiliate with whoever pays them the most money. The stores that appear on the site are all either Amazon (because they augment our search results) or sites that our users have entered. That’s it.
  2. Advertising. We don’t want to litter the site with ads. There are currently no ads on the home page, individual list pages, profile pages, etc. We currently have ads on individual wishes (you have to click into one) and the ads should be targeted to they’re relevant to the wish you’re looking at. We’ll be doing some experimenting with ad placement to figure out what’s the best compromise between aesthetics and visibility. Long-time beta testers probably remember when the ad used to be in the black banner.
• Q: Are you going to grant me wishes?
  A: Maybe. If you’re good.

Also… a few more bugfixes and site updates:

• marthasoft noticed that our list of top reviewers was wrong, and someone with zero reviews was in there. Now it’s fixed, and now marthasoft is in there (coincidence?)
• I noticed that the “most popular” things on the front page really weren’t all that popular. That’s fixed now, and appropriately The Alphabet of Manliness is the most popular item.
• The front page used to flicker and show whenever you navigated to another link, like a person’s list, directly. No more!
• Kate pointed out that while you’re pulling up someone’s profile, the text said you were pulling up their wishlist, which wasn’t right. Fixed.

Thank you to everyone who signed up and checked out the site! We’ve gotten a lot of great feedback and a lot of great ideas. Special thanks to those who submitted bug reports via the feedback page.

The following issues have been resolved:

• Jonah filled us in on a bug where, if you clicked on an item on the front page, then clicked ‘create an account’, you’d get a blank page.
• Josh described the image upload process for custom items as “a little wonky” and he was absolutely right. It should behave as one would expect now.
• Kate reported that there were times she clicked around, and found herself staring at a grey page because the screen re-drew but didn’t scroll back up to the top.
• Schulte reported an issue where under certain circumstances, you could go to post a comment, and it would spin and never come back.
• One day last week, when you added something to your wishlist that you want it, it would save the fact that you wanted it but not the number of hearts. Sorry Martha!
• The little images in the bookmarklet (browser button) were stretched out, and if you clicked them, they wouldn’t look quite right. Fixed!

Also… the RSS feeds should soon start to show up with the heart/star images in them. That’s something we’ve been meaning to put in for a while.

There will be plenty more fixes and enhancements to come… thank you so much for the support so far!

At long last… the site is live at wishlisting.com. Feel free to go there, explore, and sign up!

It’s been a long time in coming. A big thanks is in order for our best beta testers, Kate and Shuttle. This weekend we also got extra help from Fil, Karen and Marysharon to help find all of the most serious release-blocking bugs. We even received a bottle of champagne from our “Belltown Buds.” Thank you!

I think the site will be not only fun, but also a valuable tool for keeping track of the things you want and exploring what your friends think about things We’ll be posting more as time goes on about the ways the site can be put to use to solve a lot of the problems that we all have.

Here are a few random, possibly interesting statistics:

• The first checkin was January 14th, 2006 - 1 year and 3 months ago. We are currently on revision 1,882.
• A passing set of automated tests involves 33,263 assertions across 245 tests.
• In the last 7 days, 4 all-nighters were pulled. By one of us. Not me.

We’ve put a ‘public beta’ label on the site for a few reasons:

• It currently doesn’t pass the “mom” test. People who aren’t web-savvy will run into a few roadblocks which we’d like to clear up.
• The server is fairly young. We’re not entirely sure how reliable it will be - so far, so good.
• There are enough small bugs/annoyances that we probably shouldn’t set the expectation that the site is perfect.

Features coming soon, explicitly to help with usability and the “new user” experience:

• Firefox extension and Internet Explorer plugin - to make getting your browser button installed a breeze.
• Getting started guide - help new users figure out what’s going on
• Various flow enhancements - Make sure it’s easy for people to find what they’re looking for, and accomplish what they’re trying to get done

So, those are some of the things we’ll be working on over the next few weeks - so please use the feedback form and let us know if something’s broken or confusing (or slow!). We’re not planning on promoting the site until it passes the mom test, so we’re not asking for anyone to promote the site at this point. If you like it, use it! If you don’t like it, let us know what you dislike, so we can fix it.

We want our moms to like it. Yours too.

The beta site is undergoing a lot of work and will be intermittently on and off for the next two days. If all goes according to plan, things will be in good shape by Sunday, April 1st. In the meantime though, it will be hit or miss. Sorry!

Articles like this one seem to be cropping up more frequently lately.

MySpace now aggressively cracks down on its eco-system — often blocking third-party widgets without warning or explanation — and it’s become a huge risk for any web-based startup to rely too heavily on traffic generated from the social networking site…

Although we won’t be able to offer a MySpace widget at launch, and certainly “widgets” can be used in more ways than just inclusion on MySpace profiles, this is something we keep an eye on. It impacts the priority of the feature, as well as the most appropriate technology to use. If you are targeting a widget for MySpace, you’re probably going to use Flash, because it’s well known that Flash is allowed on MySpace, whereas things that require JavaScript are blocked. However, if MySpace is not an option, and you’re targeting bloggers or desktops (like the Google Desktop or a Windows Vista Sidebar Gadget) then Flash probably isn’t the best choice.

As the last post might have suggested, we’re cutting over to a new server. As such, expect some downtime during the transition. In the next day or two, the beta site should go away and come back, with all of your data, at the new server.

See you on the other side!